Apple M1 sereis as development workstaiotns/laptops to deploy to ARM Neoverse N and V seriesĪt a big enough point it makes sense for a Hyperscaler /Cloud vendor to do their own server boards. they are playing catch up.Īpple's 40 core, only supports boots macOS, no 3rd party GPU chip likely won't be the primary issue. 2022 probably go to 5nm can crank the core count again.
toss the single threaded drag racing low perf/watt chase and go for more effective mutliple thread for specific workloads.īergamo is suppose to come in 2023 with 128 cores.
That is the problem that Bergamo is suppose to help solve. That is actually a problem for folks that need to do "carbon neutral" computing for various workloads. The roadmaps for AMD and Intel for high end server cores TDP is just up, up and up. just fine at lower power than the x86_64. Those cores could run the current backend of iCloud, Apple email, etc. That is mainly to do customer SoC for different Cloud/Hyperscalers. They are moving to their own custom cores from baseline ARM Neoverse ones. If actually look at what Ampere is doing with Supposedly the AMD (or Intel) competitive intelligence for said that the competition was "Apple/ARM". The bulk of that video is about AMD Bergamo ( 128 core AMD Epyc variant for Cloud/Hyperscalers). It is a "server business" but it isn't the same as what is being talked about in the vast majority of that video. MacStadium/MacColoc runs 10's of thousands of Minis as servers. Apple macOS cloud licensing model doesn't really support mass, multitenant servers either. Again look at major cloud services vendors who don't offer any AI/ML backend coverage. Apple probably isn't going to scale macOS past 64 cores ( a cap that it has now). But somewhat doubtful that is actually going to cut the "grade' as a server chip for general purpose (e.g., non macOS ) workloads that invovle substantive I/O throughtput. The Jade2c and Jade4C 20 / 40 core chips serving as "server" chips for XCode Cloud. So just because it is a hyperscale server chip wouldn't necessarily mean a retail product would fall out of that. They sell time on servers but not the servers themselves. (i.e., primarily all Linux workload now on x86_64 ) then Apple could have a hyperscaling chip of their own, but that would have nothing to do with macOS or retail sales at all. If Apple is building (or contracting semi-custom work ) cores for the back end of iCloud, email, photos, etc. Who isn't a top end hyperscaler than doesn't have some ARM Neoverse /Ampere / etc ARM nodes in deployment at this point? Microsoft appears to be working on a Neoverse solution. Baidu is working on an AMD Neoverse solution. "Server" chips or Hyperscaler/Cloud chips?Īmazon is rolling out more Graviton2 (Neoverse0 nodes than x86_64 nodes. Apple are seemingly going to triple down on building out all avenues of the Apple World ecosystem.
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Will they sell just the chips/SOCs to third parties to run whatever software they want (Linux running on AS)? Or maybe they sell the SOCs + macOS Cloud/Server software to cloud compute companies like AWS as an entirely new option for backend work (kinda like how you can spin up Intel Mac Mini EC2 instances on AWS right now).Īgain, this is one of the most exciting pieces of news to come out of Apple in years. There's a lot of money to be made in the cloud computing game. I wonder if they'll actually end up selling these chips to third parties. Moving iCloud infrastructure in house to AS is probably a given, although that task will require a tremendous amount of resources, but will we see AS servers used for developer workflows? (Cloud compilation for large Xcode projects?) Or maybe something consumer facing like the ability to offload resource intensive tasks in a client side app to the cloud? Maybe a cloud gaming service is in the pipeline for AAA games? The question now is what will they be used for. If he says he can confirm Apple are working on server chips then he's almost certainly correct. This thread should have way more traffic, this is one of the most interesting Apple news stories in a while.įor those that aren't aware, MLID is probably one of the most accurate/reputable news sources for upcoming info about what's going on in the chip world. This is huge, people were speculating about this a while ago as per the linked thread above but to get confirmation from MLID means it's probably happening. I was about to make a thread on this then saw yours.